Rebecca Joynes allegedly became pregnant after having sex with one of her victims, known as boy B, Manchester Crown Court heard - she denies the allegations against her.
Rebecca Joynes denies having sex with the two boys but admitted, in Manchester Crown Court, to having broken safeguarding rules by being in contact with them on Snapchat and having them back to her apartment in Salford Quays.
The 30-year-old was already suspended from her job and on bail for alleged sexual activity with boy A, 15, when she allegedly took the virginity of a second boy, known as boy B, 16, who she later became pregnant by.
Joynes denies that any sexual activity took place with boy A - whose semen was recovered from her bedsheets.
Fucking pedophile
*ephebophile
not a drag queen
Notice how it says “having sex with” instead of “raping” because she is a woman.
Statutory rape does not exist as an offence in English law. The offence is sexual contact with a minor.
The age of consent is 16 but 18 if the older party is in a position of responsibility (like a teacher). So whether or not she had unlawful sexual contact with the second boy would depend on how that law was interpreted, as well as when the first contact took place.
Yeah as fucked up as it is men cannot be raped by women according to the definition under UK law. That’s what I read anyway someone please correct me though because I would love to be wrong here.
It’s not the best source obviously, but according to Wikipedia this is incorrect, women can be charged with rape (if I’ve read this correctly):
Under section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, the use of the phrase “his penis” is a misnomer as all laws were previously written using male pronouns. It does not exclude those who are legally female from being able to be covered from the definition of rape.[12]
The last time I pasted a Wikipedia link on a world news community I was banned, so mods please just delete this comment if I’ve done something wrong. [Edit] note it was a different world news community, I’m just trying to be extra careful.
The last time I pasted a Wikipedia link on a world news community I was banned
.ml? The mods there are really ban-happy, especially if you say something counter to tankie orthodoxy and back it up with unassailable logic and/or data lol
Yeah that’s the one. I hadn’t noticed they were so ban-happy and I did enjoy getting some, definitely not all of them, different takes on world events.
What I really don’t like is over policing though as it means you can unintentionally be stuck in a bubble.
Maybe there are stats on the number of bans a community has. That’d be interesting to have an idea of how much a community is policing.
Maybe there are stats on the number of bans a community has. That’d be interesting to have an idea of how much a community is policing.
It’d be up near the top for sure! Of the four times total I’ve been banned on Lemmy,
- one was a legitimate one for breaking the “be excellent to each other” rule in [email protected] by getting far too heated while arguing with a pro-cop person
- one was a misunderstanding where making fun of Mitch McConnell got me banned from [[email protected](https://lemmy.world/m/politics) for “celebrating the death” of his sister in law
- the other two was absolutely bullshit [email protected] bans for
- supposed “sinophobia” (expressing unease about Chinese cops cooperating with Orban’s fascist government in Hungary) and
- “McCarthyism” for calmly and truthfully explaining that West Germany and later modern day Germany actually DID ever stop with the Nazism
Notice how it says it was consensual and they were at the age of consent?
Joynes denies six counts of engaging in sexual activity with a child, including two while being a person in a position of trust.
The defendant, pleading innocence, said that. The case is about sexual activity with children.
Hitman denies being hitman and you believe him, that’s your angle? I know you’re being intentionally obtuse, but it’s clear I was talking about the teenagers, not the woman trying not to be arrested.
She is an authority to them, they are obviously not adults, she invited them to her home, and there is little doubt she had sex with both because one evidently came at least on her bed and the other inside her.
This is sexual abuse. If the sexes were reversed the guy would be scheduled for a life sentence with high probablility of getting shanked every time he encounters another prisoner.
Ohh! It’s just your reading comprehension, not that you’re really suggesting that it’s cool for a teacher to fuck their fifteen year old students and former students. If you care about what the children said, there’s this from the older one:
Boy B claims he tried to end the relationship but did not know how to, called her a “paedo” and told her to find someone her own age but claimed emotional pressure came from Joynes to keep their relationship going.
(…) boy B rowed and could not decide on whether to keep the baby or have an abortion.
Boy B claims he tried to end the relationship but did not know how to, called her a “paedo” and told her to find someone her own age but claimed emotional pressure came from Joynes to keep their relationship going.
Just in case someone is uneducated enough to not to understand why grooming is bad, this is what it leads to.
How can she possibly deny that when the evidence is undeniable?
Rape is not a stupid mistake. It’s an intentional action that is immoral and illegal and should be punished as such.
And it’s even less of a mistake when you do it again
Of course, it’s all about her, not her victims.
That’s because the victims are children, and there are limitations to what you can publish about children in cases like this.
She can express empathy for the victims as well as shame and remorse, without naming them specifically. Apparently, she only regrets the consequences that she, herself, is suffering.
The responsibility to keep the victims’ names obfuscated is that of the publisher(s)/media, not her, and could easily be edited from any statement she made containing them.
Ah, I thought you were referring to the reporting of the article instead of her testimony, my bad.
Oh, my, no. The identities of the victims should certainly be protected. I was just commenting that the teacher appears to have no concern for the impact of her actions upon her victims, only that of the consequences upon herself.
Pedophile upset that raping children got her cut off from easy access to a pool of children to rape.
Pedophile
Ephebophile*
A distinction that only matters to people who want to fuck kids.
I think the distinction is important so as not to detract from what is arguably more horrible and worthy of condemnation — pedophilia.
Cool now give her the same sentence a male teacher should get
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A teacher accused of having sex with two teenage pupils has told a jury she ruined her “dream job” with stupid “mistakes”.
Rebecca Joynes denies having sex with the two boys but admitted, in Manchester Crown Court, to having broken safeguarding rules by being in contact with them on Snapchat and having them back to her apartment in Salford Quays.
In court she also maintains that the relationship with boy B only began after he had left school and she had lost her job, so no legal offence was committed.
Mr Allman alleged that both boys were 15 when she began taking them into her flat and she communicated with both on Snapchat - where messages are deleted and not recoverable by police.
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Mr Allman said that Joynes had a supportive family, sister and a best friend back home but instead chose the company of a 15-year-old boy.
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Raping two students.
She raped a child and emotionally manipulated them into continuing it after the child attempted to end it. Not nice. Not even close.
You need context from the show to get this meme. This episode is a satire on how women who molest minors are treated differently and how some people are inclined to congratulate the molested instead of seeing them as victims.
It’s not nice, and we need to view the attitude of situations like this being “nice” as messed up. Hence the meme.
WHOOSH
terfs will claim she technically didn’t sexually assault anyone here.
also jk rowling will not mention this
Boy A and Boy B are now the most popular kids in school.
Kid was 2 years older? Totally legal and the top category on every porn site.
Sorry… are you suggesting 16-year-olds doing porn would be acceptable?
Sexual assault can happen to men and boys. Sure, some of them may be “fine” with what happened, but this mentality makes it incredibly difficult for male victims of sexual assault to come forward and get help when they need it. The damage isn’t always apparent right away, either.
The point of having an age of consent (in this case 16 in the UK) is not popularity, and not just parental awareness or protection from people in positions of power.
It’s a decision by society that kids below this age are incapable of grasping the full consequences of their consent.
Of course the limit is going to be somewhat arbitrary, and you can definitely argue that age of consent laws are bad without being a creep, but you’d have to argue that a 15 year old understands the ramifications of consent.
Can’t grasp the consequences but def grasped dem titties
I really want to downvote this but I can’t bring myself to do it.
