• Icalasari@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    This really is going to come down to who can lose the most voters, isn’t it?

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      3 months ago

      Hard to tell how much Biden will lose. He’s definitely not liked but a lot of the “not going to vote because Palestinian genocide” is probably trolls (likely Russian/Chinese). Things would be worse for Israel and Ukraine under Trump and they know it. I’m more interested in whether Dems can be shifted further left to stop the genocide, help Ukraine more, and get some basic rights back.

      Trumps’ base is still loyal but I think many non-extremists are just fucking tired of him and his ilk. His base is also old and more Rs than Ds died by not vaccinating.

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        but a lot of the “not going to vote because Palestinian genocide” is probably trolls (likely Russian/Chinese). Things would be worse for Israel and Ukraine under Trump and they know it.

        What a load of crap. Opposing a genocide and the people providing them the means to do it makes you a Russian troll now in this bizarro timeline that we’re in?

        I’d love to hear your explanation for how things could possibly get worse for Palestinians. Are they going to start double murdering people?

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          3 months ago

          More weapons and egging the IDF on, not giving even the aid they get now. No air drops, no “red line” for ground invasion and full eradication. Possible US military involvement. Not even verbal reprimands about hostage killing and war crimes. Strong pressure on other governments to support Israel “or else”.

          Needing to support Israel was one of the first things the house GOP used to prevent aid for Ukraine, requiring them to be tied together. It is already horrendous but Trump and the GOP would take making it worse a challenge.

          Murder on both sides, less murder on one side more murder on the other side. When those are the options I’ll pick less murder.

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            More weapons and egging the IDF on, not giving even the aid they get now. No air drops, no “red line” for ground invasion and full eradication. Possible US military involvement. Not even verbal reprimands about hostage killing and war crimes. Strong pressure on other governments to support Israel “or else”.

            You may want to so some more reading as nearly all of this is already happening.

            The GOP were being obstructionists over funding for Ukraine simply because they’re contrarians and must oppose anything Democrats put forth. The GOP is also the party full of skinheads and antisemitic conspiracy theories. Do you think they really give a shit about Israel?

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              3 months ago

              I would also point to the recent Republican bill that stops Biden from preventing or slowing weapon shipments to Israel something he had used to prevent a ground invasion.

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        3 months ago

        It’s not just Gaza, though. There’s a lot there and it was always going to come down to who loses the most votes.

        It’s not going to be an easy election for Biden.