“All they are trying to do is convince us that there is some kind of movement toward where we want,” Siblani said. “But it’s too slow and it’s dragging. It’s more death and casualties that are happening.”

The highest-profile example of the stonewalling came last week when a Palestinian American doctor walked out of a meeting with Biden. But interviews with Muslim and Arab American leaders reveal how that face-to-face protest was only the most conspicuous case of a fracture that has damaged crucial relationships and closed avenues needed to repair them.

But the situation presents a challenge for a president who believes in the political power of personal relationships and has prized his history of sitting down with opponents and critics. It could also jeopardize his reelection this year, with some Muslims warning they are unwilling to support Biden even it that risks returning Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, to the White House.

Salam Al-Marayati, who lives in Los Angeles and leads the Muslim Public Affairs Council, described the attitude as, “Forget them. They have to learn a lesson. And if they lose, that’s the lesson they should learn.”

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    If you’re an American it seems like your choices really are between Biden and his slow genocide or Trump with his quick one.

    It doesn’t seem like you can really rely on your political leaders to help resolve this conflict in a way that doesn’t lead to more suffering and death, only the pace at which it happens. If those are the only two options, I don’t blame Muslim and Arab Americans for giving up on Biden.

    I think it would just be more honest to acknowledge there’s no real support amongst any American political leadership to minimise the suffering of either the Palestinian or Israeli people.

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      What suffering of the Israelis? They’re partying and listening to shitty techno music and getting showered in free American money and weapons.

      Palestinians are living in tents and starving. They’d love to be subjected to America’s treatment of Israel.

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        Both Palestinians and Israelis see each other as existential threats. Ignoring this basic reality means there will always be conflict in the region.

        Palestinians are suffering en masse right now, I don’t think anyone reasonable is denying that.

        But what do you think happens if the underlying, justifiable, fear that they each have of the isn’t addressed? There will be more massacres and more war, and like in every war, innocent people will pay the price.

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    Maybe they should start sharing some words with Hamas about releasing the hostages and surrendering so that the war can end.

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        The nose is getting cut off by either candidate in this situation. Biden has pulled strings we all wish would’ve been pulled for something like saving the student debt foregivness but instead he did it to continue supplying and funding a genocide.

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          Trump will do it so much better then, he’ll tell the Israelis to finish what they started and give them more kaboom.

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            How about we focus on stopping genocide. If you live outside the ~5 states that decide the election then you should be voting for a third party.

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          It’s a good thing the Donald Trump who moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem totally wouldn’t support Israeli genocide, isn’t it?

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            Clearly Donald trump wont be any better and that clearly wasn’t my point. To people who are trying to stop this genocide going “The other guys isn’t going to be any better” instead of also trying to stop the genocide isn’t going to convince them to come to your side.

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        You guys could join us.

        I bet you would rather support Biden sending more and more bombs, than stand with us and say no.

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          Okay, “us.” Which specific candidate should we vote for that has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden?

          Because “vote third party” will not beat Trump or Biden even if you wish really hard.

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              So you believe that a person who has not even been convinced to run yet is the person we should vote for that has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden?

              You honestly believe that?

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                I prefer to aim high and miss than aim low and hit.

                I did that with a president and an ex wife, both were horrible decisions.

                Trump is an asshole for sure, but I have faith in the democrats doing like they did last time and fucking up as much as possible.

                At least the Cheeto says what he means.

                Biden talks out the side of his mouth because he’s too busy gobbling Netanyahu’s balls with the rest.

                Besides i believe we deserve to suffer if trump gets elected, maybe we will learn this time about ignoring huge swaths of your supporters.

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                  You are a fucking shill for trump. “Says what he means”??? Hahah you cultist dipshit. He wants your money. That’s it.

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    We need to stop paying attention to what the Biden government says, and pay absolute attention to what they do! They’re speaking out of both sides of their mouth, FFS!