Yes, I realize how much hate I will get for this. I don’t give a shit. Seethe away, kids.

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    It’s perfectly reasonable for PC gamers who use the Steam platform, which provides copy protection, to be annoyed by having to sign onto services they otherwise would never use. There is no purpose to it aside from marketing and data collection.

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      to be annoyed by having to sign onto services they otherwise would never use

      Once.

      You only have to sign in ONE SINGLE TIME, to link that one game to your PSN account.

      And then you never, ever, ever, EVER have to do anything with that account again, until the sun burns out.

      But people will cry their entitled fucking eyeballs out, regardless. Whatever. Like I said, seethe away. It just makes me erect.

      EDIT: Also, what data collection? If you’re fucking stupid enough to give Sony an email address that you actually use, you truly, actually deserve to be tracked. Scientists track dumb animals all the time. Nothing wrong with that.

      EDIT: Also, it WOULD be fine for people to “be annoyed.” But that’s not what’s happening, is it? These people are throwing a five-alarm, heart-attack-inducing, cringe-o-riffic, shit-smearing tantrum about it.

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        It’s against the TOS to use false information to make a PSN account. So now you’re banned and can’t play the game on steam.

        Sony has an atrocious record of being hacked as well.

        Some of the countries the game was sold in don’t allow PSN accounts to be created. So those users can’t play the game on steam.

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          Sony has an atrocious record of being hacked as well.

          Ohhhh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

          Unsavory bad-actor types might get access to my THROWAWAY PROTONMAIL ACCOUNT???

          OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.

          Some of the countries the game was sold in don’t allow PSN accounts to be created. So those users can’t play the game on steam.

          And I have to use a VPN to watch porn in Texas. Go find a fucking Kleenex for either your tears or my VPN-powered fucking jizz load. Or don’t buy a box of Kleenex this month, and you’ll save enough money to afford a premium VPN subscription.

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            Noticed you glossed the TOS bit. Idk if you know this but they’ll ban you for using a VPN to create an account. So all those regionally locked people that bought it just should not have? A megacorp like Sony who installs fucking rootkits on CDs is a weird company to lick the balls of but go off.

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              they’ll ban you for using a VPN to create an account

              I assume that means they’ll ban people who play on PS5 through a VPN. That’s not ideal, but that doesn’t apply in this situation. In this case, you just have to make a PSN account, then connect it to your copy of Helldivers 2 ONE SINGLE TIME.

              If I’m wrong, then that does suck. I’ll admit that.

              As for the TOS, who fucking gives a shit? “Ohhh nooooooo, they LIED TO US! A corporation LIED to us!”

              Yeah, no shit. All companies are going to lie to you. All people who do business with you are going to lie to you. All random people you meet a few times are going to lie to you. All your friends are going to lie to you. All your family is going to lie to you. Everyone you ever love or fuck is going to lie to you. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU WILL EVER MEET IS GOING TO LIE TO YOU.

              Get that through your head. Or, to put it more bluntly, grow the fuck up.

              Knowing that everybody lies, it’s TRULY a matter of choosing which lies you’re really going to get your nads in a twist about.

              Setting aside the people who might have region-based problems, literally every other person can just GIVE SONY A THROWAWAY EMAIL ADDRESS.

              Getting Sony to store everyone’s worthless email addresses is, if anything, an expense for them. There is no downside, for us.

              TAKE THE FUCKING WIN.

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                You don’t know what a Terms of Service is? You’d be breaking it in that case, resulting in a ban. They didn’t lie. Its just a shit ass thing to do. Its not a win for anyone. Expect more of this, make 599 million accounts. Enjoy it.

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                  Here’s what this comes down to.

                  I will freely admit that it really does suck for Sony to require people in countries that can’t make a PSN account to…just fuck off, I guess?

                  But I know you WON’T admit that it’s fine for everyone ELSE to just make a throwaway account.

                  For some reason, you consider 120 seconds of typing an email address into a text box and clicking an activation link to be some kind of ridiculous bar to clear. I just don’t get it. Give them a throwaway email and get on with your fucking life, goddamn.

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    You’re not a very chill dude and your girl tells me you don’t even 69 so what’s up with that username

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    In the UK, you have the choice between giving them a picture of your ID or doing a facial scan to complete the age verification requirement.

    Lolz just give them a fake email…

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    Your anger about the people that are upset by this is way more irrational than the anger of those people. Like it literally doesn’t affect you at all if people stop playing the game.

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    For sure, there’s no need for any fuss, just keep quietly taking all the corporate bs as always. Next time when you’ll need to submit an income form just to access a microtransaction-riddled single player game - just use your parents bank account statement, no need to use your own. And when you’ll need to enter a fingerprint id to unlock your multiplayer account - just ask your friend to help out.

    It’s a modern day privacy, apparently. Someone think of those poor companies barely getting by just by selling you the game, the least you could do is share your personal data for them to sell too, better yet get locked into their ecosystem for a long term milking.

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    The simple reality of the situation is it was a business decision by Sony. They saw this groundswell of potential players to add to their huge database of people to market to, and said “we’re getting those email addresses”. If I had to venture a guess, the higher-ups at Arrowhead are probably livid and pushed back. They get zero out of this change and they have to deal with the fallout. It’s likely part of the publishing agreement.

    That said Sony knew this would happen, if probably not to this degree. Maybe they post a solemn jpeg talking about how they “fell short of expectations”. Being Sony it’s likely that they just ignore the backlash. Their projections say they’ll make more money with all that new data than they’ll lose on some half-hearted boycott. Gamers are notoriously horrid at sticking to that shit. And you know what? That next battle pass is gonna sell just fine even if the vocal folks don’t buy it.

    Yes, it sucks and it’s reasonable to be annoyed. Yes, many loud people on the internet are acting like a helldiver kicked down their door and demanded a kidney. Yes, only one party gains from this and it’s Sony. These things aren’t mutually exclusive. No need for argument imo.

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    Just buy your own website and boomski 10000 emails you can randomly set up. [email protected] primary Bills@myfullname Admin@myfullname Fuck@myfullname Bullshitspam@myfullname

    It’s awesome, plus never get emails like hey fuck@myfullname there are hot horny people in your area code…viagrxxxxa etc.

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      Ahhh, but that’s just UNACCEPTABLE CORPORATE SHILL BEHAVIOR, according to all these other clowns.

      According to these assholes, the only reasonable response is to throw a shit-tossing tantrum, until the children of these particular game developers have all actually starved to death. That’ll teach 'em to mildly inconvenience some people.

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        So if I’m being honest the only reason I learned this was because Gmail was putting work email to spam…as a freelancer…so I got a website I use for email…0 spam. It’s amazing.

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    You’re not wrong. If the concurrent player count had dropped by 99% on announcement and stayed there for a week with no new sales it would have sent a message at least. But you remember the “shitstorm” around Hogwarts Legacy? 850 million in the first two weeks regardless 🤷‍♀️ that’s the kind of shitstorm most would weather gladly, I’d bet.

    But hey, you need blameless developers doxxed and threatened, gamers are your best option every time! Heheh yeah up top 🙌