@ernest how do I report a Magazin on kbin.social ? There is a usere called “ps” who is posting to his own “antiwoke” Magazin on kbin.social. Please remove this and dont give them a chance to etablish them self on kbin.social. When I report his stuff it will go to him because he is the moderator of the magazin? Seems like a problem. Screenshot of the “antiwoke” Magazin /sub on kbin.social. 4 Headlines are visible, 2 exampels: “Time to reject the extrem trans lobby harming our society” “How to end wokeness” #Moderation #kbin #kbin.social 📎
edit: dont feed the troll, im shure ernest will delet them all when he sees this. report and move on.
Edit 2 : Ernest responded:
“I just need a little more time. There will likely be a technical break announced tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Along with the migration to new servers, we will be introducing new moderation tools that I am currently working on and testing (I had it planned for a bit later in my roadmap). Then, I will address your reports and handle them very seriously. I try my best to delete sensitive content, but with the current workload and ongoing relocation, it takes a lot of time. I am being extra cautious now. The regulations are quite general, and I would like to refine them together with you and do everything properly. For now, please make use of the option to block the magazine/author.”
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Hatred is not speech you disagree with. It’s not speech that hurts your delicate feelings. It’s not speech that contradicts your values. It’s none of that.
I’m fine with downvotes, although I miss old-school reddiquette back when we upvoted content that should be seen, regardless of whether or not we agreed with it. But this discussion is about banning people and magazines, not downvotes.
I am downvoting you because nobody should get eye cancer from your bullshit
Right. It’s speech that tells people they’re not worthy of or welcome to exist.
Thanks for playing.
That’s not exactly what hate speech is, but it’s also not what I said. Standing up for conservative Christian behavior is wholly different from telling anyone they’re not worthy or welcome to exist. We are all made in God’s image, all of us able to repent, be forgiven, and live according to God’s will.
Which god? Zeus?
Zeus!??! Blasphemy. All father or no father I say. Odin for best God.
Your sky daddy is fake, and I, for one, will not live under your people’s delusions of truth.
What if they don’t believe in the Christian God because the Christian God is demonstrably not real?
Mmmmm, it’s more like no one can reasonably demonstrate the truth of any god, rather than any specific god being demonstrably false. It’s an important distinction. You can’t disprove a thing, but you can prove that alternate explanations are far more probable, or that the thing doesn’t fit the evidence.
So perhaps you should repent for actively hurting your fellow children of God. Because unless you’re not a hardcore old-school christian, freedom of choice on how to live ones life if it doesn’t hurt anybody is a God given right. And you actively want to take that away.
I absolutely do not want anyone’s freedom of choice taken away. That’s one of my core principles. God gives us free will so that we may choose. Without the ability to choose, we cannot be saved. So you are grossly misinterpreting me.
No one needs to see this, you are throwing out extremely basic arguments that all of us encounter every day in this regressive society. You aren’t speaking truth to power, you’re just being part of the power right now. You aren’t making yourself look good and you aren’t making the world a better, freer, more nuanced, or happier place.
People: Hey, stop being a jackass.
Conservatives: OMG, yoU WANT TO CREATE A FAR LeFTIST ECHO CHAMBER
Every fucking time.
You do realize that this post is specifically about ideological censorship, right?
Hatred invites and deserves censorship.
But if I block everyone I disagree with, I won’t have to censor anyone!
Can you explain how a post that was aimed towards “trans lobby harms our society” is not hatred?
I mean I somewhat blame the OP for not linking the posts for some context, but after a bit of looking around it sounds like the posts in question are in fact hate speech and not just things to disagree with.
What if an article was titled “Christian lobby harms our society”? Would you consider that hateful? Personally, as a Christian, I certainly wouldn’t upvote such an article, but I wouldn’t try to get it banned either. People have viewpoints based on personal experiences, and some people find harm in some political lobbies. It’s not hatred to speak what one believes to be true.
Jesus wore dresses, get over it.
What about Leviticus 20:13? Is that hate speech?
I have no doubt most of the heathens in this thread would say “yes, it is”. For anyone who believes it is, that should be your indication that your definition of “hate speech” needs severe adjustment.
For Leviticus 20:13 to not be hate-speech, you have to start by proving, first, that any god at all exists, and second, that the Hebrew bible is the word of that god. The approach advocated in Leviticus assumes that morality is predicated on the will of a god; if a god wills a thing, then that thing must be moral, because that god creates morality. So unless you can demonstrate that a god exists, and that the translation that we have of Leviticus is the will of that god, then it should not be assumed to be moral. Perhaps you could prove the morality of it in some other way, but you haven’t made that attempt yet.
The Hebrew bible also explicitly condones slavery and rape, which implies that god says those things are moral. Would you then agree that slavery in the American south prior to 1860 was a moral practice? Would it be a moral practice if it started again? The bible advocates for genocide; is genocide moral?
BTW there’s disagreement about the meaning of that verse, from rabbinical scholars no less. Seems to me that evangelicals might want to do a little more studying to understand context before they make assumptions about the foundations of their religion.
One of our main lessons from the Bible is the primary importance of faith in God. Faith really matters to God, and it’s extraordinarily healthy for us to maintain faith. That fact impacts most of what you wrote, so it’s important for you to spend some time understanding it.
I do not need to “prove” God exists (although there’s proof everywhere you look, and many well-known philosophers have written book-length formal proofs, but also scientific theories can only be disproven, not proven) because we know God exists via faith, which is stronger than any proof. Likewise, we know that the Bible is the true inerrant word of God because we have faith. It’s unshakable. God gets to establish the rules, not us.
Once you understand faith, and you allow yourself to develop it, ask Christ for forgiveness and salvation, and you will be filled with the Holy Spirit. You will no longer doubt God, nor His word. You will realize you’ve been blind all these years to the copious evidence of God everywhere we look.
You come across as if you’re struggling with a giant void in your heart, and you’re plagued by demons. I was there once too. Nihilism and emptiness seemed normal, especially when you’ve surrounded yourself with others who are just as lost. But you are a child of God, and He wants you to turn towards Him. Once you stop doubting and questioning Him, and gain His salvation, you will be given the strength to overcome your sins.
Since you read in context, could you tell me where the hate speech is?
I only see one article where they spend most of the time making a disclaimer in favor of trans rights, followed by a critique of non-diagnosis and surgery on children, or how nothing is allowed to be questioned. That last one we can see in this thread, people are foaming at the mouth over a title (which includes "extreme, btw…), it’s crazy.
Do you remember when I called you an asshole?
I’d like to expand that you’re a mi-sogynist , homophobe, and your support for fascists leaves me with no compunctions presuming you hold racist beliefs as well.
In short, I want to make clear this is not a case of what you may have read in Mathew 10:22. You are not being persecuted, and it is not “for righteousness’ sake”. You are a hate filled asshole who pursues policies which will harm society, and you seek to insert and establish the dominance of (what you believe to be) the word of your god while desiring safe space free from the calling out of your hate.
I also suspect you might be closeted.
That last line is not served as a “gotcha”. I want you to know community and acceptance can exist outside what you seem to have found convening with some very dangerous ideology on the right. I suspect at some level you want to be lead away as as you say yourself there are places you could hang out that would not challenge your beliefs. You are here in a “den of sin”.
I will commune with a few gods (not yhwh; different better gods) to see if they can bless you with the conviction to choose kindness over cantankerousness.
Change is possible.
You are not broken beyond repair.
I Love You.
I have faith in your ability to be a better person than you have thus-far demonstrated yourself to be.
Wow, this is such a well composed comment that I almost want to upvote it. Nice work with all of the links and research. You deserve a better reply than I have the energy to write, as I’m tired of this conversation. Sorry.
To address a few of your accusations:
And lastly, quickly, to address two other high-level points you made:
You seem to be under the mistaken assumption I am interested in debating you.
I am not. Nor do I care to hear you loudly proselytizing as a certain other group of people do.
I invite you to consider why you get the reaction you universally seem to to your posts, and proffer that it is not because everyone is jealous that Jesus loves you more than them.
I am not however here to convert you, nor do I intend to platform fascist talking points by treating them as worthy or needing of debate.
I will leave you with the words of one of the prophets of my faith,
“You ain’t a vampire; you don’t have to suck.”
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