It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.
In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.
The instance-admin of [email protected] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.
The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.
Where are the instances that show face against racism?
edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks
edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)
I support defederatiom personally because it sends a stronger message from the community. Blocking the community is “I don’t want to see this.” Defederating is “we don’t want to see this.”
So, from what I’ve gathered, many consider the broad lesson learnt from various defederation dramas over on mastodon is that making a genuine attempt to voice concern with the instance admins prior to defederation is almost always the better way to go. It avoids drama and inconvenience while promoting a better ecosystem of cooperation between instance admins and their users.
Obviously at some point when there aren’t better options and users need to be protected, use defederation, that’s what it’s for.
But at this point, I’d try to talk or have our admins talk to the instance admin first.
Exactly, defederation is a nuclear option that affects everyone on both instances.
I agree. It may help send a message that the community isn’t tolerated, hopefully getting it removed.
Yeah I guess it does put pressure on instance admins to remove the offending community from their instance. I am just not sure if we want to cross that line into penalizing everybody on an instance for simply being near a bad community though. I also think doing this kind of proactive censorship also forces these people into deeper echo chambers as they get more and more isolated.
Yup. And that’s the point. Clean up your shit, or get cut off.
Yes, we do. We need to skip gayly over that line with laughter and mirth. It needs to be common decency to stamp that shit out at the roots. If a nazi starts showing up at parties, do NOT stay quiet about it. That’s how these hate groups worm their way in. Acceptance through ambivalence is absolutely a thing and they bank on it every time. “Oh, it’s just a nazi. Ignore him.” NO. Shout that fucker out of your community. Don’t let them get comfortable. Let them know that their shit will NOT be tolerated.
Good. Keeps them isolated and out of vulnerable youths ears. Let them echo til their little hearts explode. They aren’t welcome in decent society.
#MakeBigotryTabooAgain
While I understand where the sentiment is coming from and hate Trump with the passion of a thousand suns, I have never once found that to be a way forward in real life. It leads to the kind of divisive politics that we see in America today, where people draw these hardcore lines that divide us and as a result we don’t actually talk and figure out the root cause of our issues and instead seem content on screaming our side is better, our side is right.
Fascism is a disgusting thing, but there’s a socioeconomic reason why people in the US are getting radicalized towards it and we aren’t going to figure that out if we’re all busy generalizing that group as disgusting people. Just my two cents.
Unfortunately, users don’t have the option to block entire instances. We need to rely on our moderating overlords to do it for us.
It would be pretty easy to filter content from specific instances in a Lemmy app without Lemmy explicitly supporting it on the server side. I’m working on an Android app right now, as soon as all the basic stuff is done I’ll implement it.
They lose their shit at the thought of federating with Facebook, but when it comes to nazis they pump the brakes. Shows peoples true colors.
No tolerance for intolerance, lest tolerance be destroyed completely. No quarter for hate.
Difference between instances (Facebook) and communities (DT). Latter is easily blocked by users themselves, former might threaten the longevity of the fediverse.
Not saying I agree with that, but comparing the two is not fair.
You think becoming infested with hate speech isn’t going to threaten the fediverse? Sure, we can all individually block the hate, but a new, clueless user who joins for the first time is going to see that hateful rhetoric and everyone else ignoring it. That is DANGEROUSLY close to acceptance.
Facebook attempts to join- “We must stop this to prevent corporate power and growth.” Bigots join- “Let’s hear them out.”
…I mean… they might have something to say that we haven’t heard and been repulsed by a thousand times already!