• daddyjones@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      Snape was never a good guy though. Very brave, yes and he had some good qualities. He was also vindictive and a bully - willing to put his petty dislikes above the quality of his teaching.

      • turkishdelight@lemmy.ml
        2·
        6 months ago

        He was also vindictive and a bully

        I formed the impression that James Potter and his gang were the real bullies, and Snape is a tragic character traumatized by their bullying.

          • turkishdelight@lemmy.ml
            1·
            6 months ago

            The book strongly implies that Snape turns into a horrible person as a direct consequence of James Potter’s bullying. He seems to be a nice kid before that.

        • 520@kbin.social
          1·
          6 months ago

          Remember that we see this scene through Snape’s memories - something wizards are able to distort to varying degrees.

          It may well be that we aren’t seeing the full story. It is revealed later that tit-for-tat behaviour was quite common to the both of them.

  • Kornblumenratte@feddit.de
    5·
    6 months ago

    Not exactly a story. I just watched Babylon 5, and it’s fascinating how the good guys are the bad guys are the good guys are the bad guys…

      • Kornblumenratte@feddit.de
        0·
        6 months ago

        No bad guys are good guys. And most good guys are not good guys, either.

        The Shadows, the Centauri and the PSI Corps are introduced as “bad guys” but gain a lot of positive aspects during the show without becoming “good guys”. The Nightwatch and the Earth Governement under president Clark are “bad guys” – but quite a few of there supporters/members become important “good” characters, like Zach Allan, Elizabeth Lochley or Susanna Luchenko.

        That’s my point about the Babylon 5 series – they deconstruct the good guy/bad guy meme. Mostly.

        • MxM111@kbin.social
          1·
          5 months ago

          Centauri got positive aspects? Londo personally, maybe, but not the Centauri. Psi cops as well did not become better, but more like “even bad people have feelings” type of thing.

      • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 months ago

        Magneto ftw. Xavier is a naive little bitch.

        “You’re always sorry, Charles …and there’s always a speech!..but nobody cares.”

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        6 months ago

        More like, the older the character gets, the more they update his backstory to be something the audience can sympathize with. Because a villain for villain’s sake gets old fast.

      • atlasraven31@lemm.ee
        1·
        6 months ago

        When the Sentinels start rounding up mutants, it is the biggest “I told you so” to Charles.

  • Chahk@beehaw.org
    2·
    6 months ago

    Gru in Despicable Me.

    Zangief in Wreck-it Ralph: “You are bad guy but this does not mean you are bad guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯”

  • tjhart85@kbin.social
    2·
    6 months ago

    Interview With the Vampire … kind of … Lestat was by no means good to Louis, but their portrayals in the rest of the series was quite different … I think that Anne Rice was trying to show that neither of them should be considered reliable narrators and Louis will always try to portray his situation as awfully as possible and Lestat is a narcissist and will always try to portray himself in the best light even when acknowledging what he did incorrectly.

    But, when I saw that book 2 was about Lestat, I was like … wtf … I hate this guy, why would I want a story with him as the main character and then I read them all, lol.

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    6 months ago

    The Sixth Day, one of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s please-take-me-seriously projects, is possibly the wrongest it is possible to be about whether clones are people. Still a fun movie. Just ass-backwards in its motivation. I’m not sure how much of its moral grey area was intended by the script or the direction. The anti-clone “good guys” are pretty terrorist-coded. Arnie’s just caught up in the middle of their guerrilla fight against a generic corporate bad guy. Who solved death. How terrible.

    Off-topic Schwarzenegger faff: End Of Days is dumb. Jingle All The Way is the most 90s Christmas movie possible. Eraser is a slick action movie that somehow has no cultural cachet outside of every video game with a railgun.

  • Donebrach@lemmy.world
    1·
    6 months ago

    Kill la Kill, at least with the primary antagonist as the main villain isn’t really introduced until pretty late in the story.