It can be like this even when you are 18

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        In my experience at least, nicotine actually does alleviate anxiety. That is, until you become addicted to it and the anxiety you want to alleviate is caused by the substance itself.

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            11 months ago

            I’ve never heard of caffeine causing anxiety. Do you have a source you can share?

            For me personally, caffeine in certain doses reduces my anxiety based general OCD and Reading OCD.

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              Caffeine, specifically black coffee, makes me feel like my life is falling down around me whenever I drink it with any amount of regularity. Anecdotal of course but I imagine if it has such a profound effect for me that it probably has the same effect for others even if it’s more subtle.

              Though to be fair I only noticed this after I was prescribed an actual stimulant medication that for me has way fewer side effects, which significantly reduced my caffeine consumption. So now it’s more of a shock to my system.

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                11 months ago

                I actually prefer black coffee because super sugary coffee like Starbucks = AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH especially if it’s got that fake sugar shit in it like sucralose, aspartame, etc.

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                  Yeah sugar and sweeteners don’t bother me (although you might want to make sure that isn’t a lactose allergy or intolerance because I’ve been there too 😅) but I specifically called out black coffee to mean that like energy drinks for example don’t make me feel that way despite having around 4x as much caffeine on average. On the other hand, any drink that is more coffee than any other additive will make me jittery and anxious. So I’m not sure if it’s specifically the caffeine that does it for me or some other component of coffee.

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                    Yeah sugar and sweeteners don’t bother me (although you might want to make sure that isn’t a lactose allergy or intolerance because I’ve been there too 😅)

                    I’m not lactose intolerant, but I have been thinking that maybe I’ve started developing an intolerance ever since I stopped drinking so much milk.
                    Caffeine is already pretty much a laxative though and I’ve never had a particularly strong sweet tooth, so large amount of sugar + caffeine O⁠_⁠o. Fake sugar is even worse because it makes my stomach hurt a lot, plus it just tastes awful.

                    I specifically called out black coffee to mean that like energy drinks for example don’t make me feel that way despite having around 4x as much caffeine on average.

                    Energy drinks tend to use pure caffeine powder, so maybe you’re having a reaction to the other chemical compounds, like Theophylline. If you homebrew, you can reduce them by using various techniques, like using filtered water instead of tap and adjusting the temperature.

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      11 months ago

      We don’t have the longterm statistics to say one way or the other

      But my gut tells me that there are significantly less carcinogens in vape juice than cigarettes (or anything burning)

      Edit: I’m not condoning vaping either. I think it’s very stupid to vape, especially if you weren’t a smoker prior. I’m just saying vaping hasn’t been around long enough to draw definite conclusions

      I can see it being used as a quitting tool, though