Converting hundreds of compositions by Johann Sebastian Bach into mathematical networks reveals that they store lots of information and convey it very effectively
I didn’t need proof myself, but I suppose it’s comforting nevertheless to have it mathematically confirmed.
You really never know what mathematics discoveries can do. Number theory was an useless brach of mathematics, considered an useless endeavor of theoretical mathematics and basically a hobby. Until modern computation and the RSA algorithm gave number theory an use, and without it, the internet as we know it, couldn’t exist.
One one hand, sure, this seems like a waste of time. On the other, I did get paid to get a masters in literature. So I don’t think I’m in a position to judge :P
fair, i guess? when i’m not professionally graphic designing, i shitpost star trek memes, although nobody can convince me that that’s not a worthwhile expenditure of my time :)
my kid reminded me of something similar one day… i was kinnda making fun of all these kids sitting around watching some guy play a video game… youtube or whatnot… it was a whole big genre i guess.
anyway i was having a problem identifying with this arrangement…lightly teasing them about watching this when my then 12 year old says ‘how is it different than sitting at/watching on tv any ballpark watching other people play those games?’ … he might as well have added ‘old man’.
for some reason, when it he put it like that it just kinda slapped some reality into me.
I will, with no shame, admit that I have watched, at 45 years old, play through of the game Myst, because, even all these years later, I could not fucking get through it on my own. 
Also, all Myst games, the Ultima Underworld games, and a few others, lol. It’s like playing the game alongside someone else. It’s fun.
Depends. Will this research allow creating AIs that can compose “in the style of Bach”, or even compose “ideal music”… and make a ton of money by selling it as a service to large music producers?
Coming soon: Song of the year, by [some figurehead] (composed and interpreted by AI)
We know as well as anyone that math is the study of questions we can answer exactly, but which often aren’t very important. If you want to talk about something desperately meaningful talk to a philosopher (and keep talking, zing!).
Right now Platonism is the dominant way of thinking about pure math, and in it’s lens the questions are treated as literally separate from the material world.
was this really a worthwhile expenditure of effort? certainly mathematicians could have found something better to do with their time?
You really never know what mathematics discoveries can do. Number theory was an useless brach of mathematics, considered an useless endeavor of theoretical mathematics and basically a hobby. Until modern computation and the RSA algorithm gave number theory an use, and without it, the internet as we know it, couldn’t exist.
now you’re reminding me of that West Wing episode wherein they were asking what the point of investing in a superconducting supercollider was:
Discovery.
Not long after that episode aired, the Higgs-Boson was discovered at the LHC.
That episode aired in March 2002.
LHC began operating in 2010 and the Higgs Boson was confirmed in 2012.
The focus of the 2002 episode was on the SSC, the boondoggle of a collider that was being built in Texas and was cancelled in 1993.
One one hand, sure, this seems like a waste of time. On the other, I did get paid to get a masters in literature. So I don’t think I’m in a position to judge :P
I have an MfA. Nobody will convince me that our education holds no value.
and, fwiw, I’m not judging— and if you’ll check out my other comments, it didn’t take much for others to remind me how silly I was being. :)
i choose to believe that this is what maths nerds do in their spare time when theyre not using their abilities to cure cancer and stuff.
this sand is cold
fair, i guess? when i’m not professionally graphic designing, i shitpost star trek memes, although nobody can convince me that that’s not a worthwhile expenditure of my time :)
my kid reminded me of something similar one day… i was kinnda making fun of all these kids sitting around watching some guy play a video game… youtube or whatnot… it was a whole big genre i guess.
anyway i was having a problem identifying with this arrangement…lightly teasing them about watching this when my then 12 year old says ‘how is it different than sitting at/watching on tv any ballpark watching other people play those games?’ … he might as well have added ‘old man’.
for some reason, when it he put it like that it just kinda slapped some reality into me.
I will, with no shame, admit that I have watched, at 45 years old, play through of the game Myst, because, even all these years later, I could not fucking get through it on my own. 
Also, all Myst games, the Ultima Underworld games, and a few others, lol. It’s like playing the game alongside someone else. It’s fun.
Depends. Will this research allow creating AIs that can compose “in the style of Bach”, or even compose “ideal music”… and make a ton of money by selling it as a service to large music producers?
Coming soon: Song of the year, by [some figurehead] (composed and interpreted by AI)
Not to be rude, but hah.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
We know as well as anyone that math is the study of questions we can answer exactly, but which often aren’t very important. If you want to talk about something desperately meaningful talk to a philosopher (and keep talking, zing!).
Right now Platonism is the dominant way of thinking about pure math, and in it’s lens the questions are treated as literally separate from the material world.