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    11 months ago

    Instead of rallying against that party, you could also change your politics such that your people are satisfied with you and don’t vote for the opposition.

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      Democratic parties adopting right wing policies will not benefit from them. The people will vote for the original.

      Right wing parties also don’t have any real policies that are going to help the part of the population that is voting for them. So it makes no sense objectively to implement this.

      Democratic parties will lose their values and gain nothing in terms of votes.

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      The so-called democratic parties are trying to do that. They’re now in favor of:

      • More border security so Frontex can drown even more migrants in the Mediterranean.
      • Detaining the ones who make it over in concentration camps.
      • Making it easier to deport people.
      • Criminalizing Muslims for supporting Palestine.

      These “democrats” are doing all this hate-speech, Hetze, and blatant violations of human rights. They took these policies directly from the far-right, and now pretend to fucking oppose the AfD? Fucking hypocritical assholes.

      It won’t work either, because none of that has anything to do with people’s economic prospects, which is the real reason most of them are angry. So they’re still going to be angry with whoever is in power, no matter how many foreigners they deport and murder and scapegoat.

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      While yes, that is part of the solution, there are also people that simply think that way. They think they are better, that they deserve X, and thus vote that way. Unless you fundamentally change their mind or promise then what they want, you will not get their vote.

      • 🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        As a German. I got to see that lot of AFD voters are alcohol addicted people who would rather blame the failure of their marriage/life/etc on immigrants rather than facing the reality that it was their own fault. So they vote AFD. It’s pathetic tbh

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          It’s not their fault the precariat has been getting shafted for a good 30 years now and HartzIV sends tons of people into disability welfare: Out of the employment statistics, out of mind. At least you can’t get sanctioned once you’re an alcoholic. “Those bums should just study at university and get a job” is peak liberal deflection, how about making it possible to live in dignity on a hair stylist’s wage instead, how about making sure that not 30% of employment contracts are precarious, but 0%, so that you can actually plan a life instead of worrying that the subcontractor of a subcontractor you work for goes into wilful bankruptcy to lay you off.

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              Yeah maybe a pub isn’t the most representative sample of the precariat. Try the Tafel.

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                  The west is not a representative sample of your usual AfD voter, either.

                  1.65m Germans get food from the Tafel, about thrice as much as fit into your village state. About 2% of the population and more would like to, the capacity is limited. It should be 0, with this nominally being a welfare state and all. We’re also short over a million of social housing units and that’s not counting people who don’t even put themselves on the list because it’s pointless, anyway, there’s no flats to be had. Shall I look up the statistics of people living in emergency accommodations for decades.

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          This has a fascist level “unwilling to examine why so many people are deeply miserable in liberal society” take on why people become fascists.

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            The nuts part is that AfD voters aren’t even that right-wing. Lots of people there who are actually socialists (they’re largely from the east, after all) but are absolutely fed up and don’t see another way. BSW will wreck absolute havoc on the AfD’s results for that reason alone. I have my issues with their foreign policy but damn we need a party that actually advocates for expropriating landlords, if only to cut through capitalist realism the otherwise largely labor-aristoctrat rest of the left is stuck in. It’s not VW workers who have trouble making rent.