Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

@fediverse #fediverse #defederation

  • Masimatutu@mander.xyz
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    1 year ago

    No, I wrote that they could be blocked by default but that the users would have the choice to manually opt in.

    Edit: Also, the problem is that the instances people want to be on don’t always federate with the instances they want to see content from. Adding an extra server which people have no reason to want to join doesn’t solve anything.

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      Sorry, the more you clarify the worse it gets.

      You want instances to use up their server space for shit the vast majority will never even see?

      And admins would have to have it unblocked, otherwise they’re hosting a bunch of shit from problematic instances without knowing what it is. Which, worst case scenario, could have legal ramifications.

      No need to keep clarifying, I was convinced already this is a terrible idea.

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        1 year ago

        Nah, content doesn’t get federated unless someone follows it. And I said it already I’m not for unconditional federation, if instances do illegal things (which gets well documented, no need to observe it directly), of course you should defederate.

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          Ah, so you want a ‘hard’ defederation, that works just like it does now, and a ‘soft’ defederation, that users could opt to disable? Interesting.

          However, as others said already, that would mean that servers now also have to federate with other servers that most users and the mods probably dont see, creating difficult moderation challenges…

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            1 year ago

            Now that is a fair criticism. But I suppose it wouldn’t matter all too much since the user decides themselves that they want to see it.