Warning to all Brave Browser Users
Blocking variations.brave.com which is used for A/B testing could potentially break Brave’s functionalities. For me did Brave’s “forgetful browsing” feature broke which seems to be disabled by default if you block this domain.
Anyoneserioius about privacy should not be using a chromium browser, and should definitely not be using brave.
Firefox is safer and tbh, has probably the best UX and aesthetics out of anyone. Brave is garbage.
For incognito browsing I recommend Librewolf, a firefox fork. If you want anything more secure, you should start looking into tor
Why is librewolf superior to our of the box Firefox? Or mullvad browser for that matter?
It has included some privacy measures to resist fingerprinting like letterboxing and has more privacy focused search engines as default like searx. Also it takes out some firefox utilities like pocket which I don’t really use
As for Mullwav browser I’m not really sure, it seems to be another reinforced firefox like librewolf
any benefits over Mullvad’s browser?
I’m not really sure, I haven’t used it. In fairness, I only use librewolf for incognito searches, not as a daily driver
safer?
Brave is just a shill for Google mothership. Firefox is leading privacy and security through browsers.
Firefox has a weaker sandbox than chromium and less mature site isolation and therefore has lower security. privacy is a different story, but remember you’re only as private as you are secure so Firefox is inherently not that private assuming a malicious site escapes the sandbox.
I’m fully against chrome’s growing monopoly as well as Google surveillance capitalism but let’s not be so dramatic with the “google mother ship” nonsense.
using chromium as a base does not equal data being sent back to Google, just like using Android as a base doesn’t inherently send data back to Google.
As a Firefox user, the only thing Brave does that I wish Firefox would copy is their fingerprinting resistance. I know Firefox does have fingerprinting resistance but it’s nowhere near the same level as Brave.
I disagree. Firefox is fine, but saying chromium is spyware because its primarily maintained by google is like saying android is spyware.
Additionally chromium browsers are arguably more secure than Firefox, and has more advanced sand boxing. So much so that graphine OS used chromium instead of Firefox for their vanadium browser.
Only thing I agree with is not using brave… Cause well… They fishy.
I truly appreciate the perspective of this post. I would like to switch fully to Firefox and support the cause. Unfortunately I have a PWA addiction and that is the only thing keeping me living my shameful hybrid browser life.
Is it a weak reason? Probably. But it’s an honest one. If Mozilla hopped on PWAs, I’d be totally fine bouncing from Brave and joining the Chromium rebellion.
But they’re the only ones blocking ads on YouTube for iOS 😞
The only reason I still use it. I like Orion but it’s not quite there yet. Not really sure what other iOS alternatives there are to chose from.
YouTube ads are served on the same server as the video… So they would have to filter it through one of their servers and block the elements and stream it to you.
So if you’re using them for privacy… you better trust them a lot because they would have equivalent info as google.
android is spyware
Android is not a single OS (?)
It is. Custom roms modify very little of the code and they are all based on aosp(it is open source but google controlls the changes). The whole point of aosp is to create the illusion of choice but if you really want to avoid using google spyware you have to give up on most apps or go to extreme lenghts to use an alternative. The grapheneos project is really cool and usefull but it only patches the inherent (intended)problems of android and doesnt provide a real solution.
Those who don’t know about it go and read GNU replicantOS blog and wikipedia page
And I’m sure you only use twofish because the NSA backdoored AES when they standardized it.
what does it have to do with Google’s business model being mass-surveillance, and/or them being caught several times collaborating with the NSA, the US army, etc.?
I agree that the NSA backdooring stuff is a problem too… (or even a different facet of the same problem…) Yet, one doesn’t invalidate the other…
I’m just saying that collaboration with or association with spooks or glowies isn’t in itself a red flag.
Many privacy and freedom granting software is made by these people.
Take Tor for example, made by the navy to hide information from the public and anonymously attack networks of adversaries… Yet now is the NSA’s biggest obstacle in mass surveillance.
I beg to disagree: the global interception capacities of the NSA in 2012 (as showed in the very few 2013 documents from Ed. Snowden that were made public) clearly were enough to routinely de-anonymize tor. By owning a certain percentage of the global internet traffic, you de facto own tor (can very precisely correlate what comes in and what goes out, and do that retrospectively when needed).
and that was 10+ years aog…
Association with spooks is a red flag, for the multiple, endless ways they have been doing their shitfuckery, endangering the general public, the exceptional US citizens, and information/communication security at large… by weakening standards, by corrupting corporations to introduce (or leave open) some bugs, by infiltrating development teams, by pressuring operators to grant full access, by breaking and entering, etc…
Anyone who doesnt see that as a problem has to be considered as part of it. Simple, basic rule.
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@themoonisacheese If you think so 🤷♂️
I’ll be the one to stay on topic instead of joining the omgchromebad crowd.
My question/concern would be, why would a browser need to connect to an outside source in order to Forget your browsing? What would it need to reference?
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You really just shouldn’t use brave…
so what you want people to use opera or Chromnius
Use a fork of firefox
Or just use firefox?
Stock Firefox is almost as bad as Google Chrome
Idk wtf you’re saying. You mean stock firefox as in firefox with no settings changed? If so, it’s not great but in no way as bad as chrome. That’s just a ridiculous statement. That being said, hardened Firefox is fine and it’s not very hard to do. By harden i mean common sense tweaks. I don’t use arkenfox or anything. I think it’s overkill at that point.
I wouldn’t say arkenfox is overkill. It’s the easiest way to get rid of all the spyware that comes with Firefox by default.
on mobile yes same for brave but much much less
what?
Think they might be having a stroke or something…
Do you think we are not Brave enough.
Sorry… I will see myself out.
Its better than Chrome, Edge, and any other proprietary spyware browser
Firefox based browsers exits and if you need chromium based there are also other degooled browser available.
Gaba degool
True but don’t you think brave is better than chrome?
Yes, but when good options exist, why give thought to which bad option is less bad?
Because we need less google control. Also brave is pretty user friendly
Firefox is the good option. It is not controlled by Google.
Brave is chromium based, which gives Google control over web standards.
Check out Vivaldi then.
It falls in the proprietary category
Didn’t they announce that they are source available?
Its still not Foss. Unless its under a free software license its a hard no for me.
At least its not chrome though
@[email protected] May I ask why you think that? I their are good reasons to don’t use Firefox either…
You’d need a very good reason to not use Firefox given that it’s all that stands against a Google monopoly on web standards. I was using a Chromium-based browser myself until Opera and Microsoft both abandoned their own browser engines - after that I couldn’t possibly justify not supporting Firefox.
Brave is an ad company. Use a privacy-centric browser like hardened firefox, librewolf, or ungoogled chromium.
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I have made an entire post detailing (some) of the reasons why you shouldn’t use Brave.
Can we not downvote genuine questions like this? All you do is discourage people wanting to learn and make it harder for people that think differently than you to see arguments against them.
Save the downvotes for rude or bad faith comments.
@IronKrill Thats the same thing I think abt you guys, but alright.
