I don’t mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I’m curious about people’s outlook on this situation.

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    I’m not here because lemmy is better right now, but because I want to move towards open platforms and a better future. It’s an investment. Deciding to move right back to reddit 2 days after they just stabbed you in the back is shortsighted in the extreme. Reddit will not stop until it devours itself and you along with it. Disabling the API is only the latest in a long line of anti-user changes in favor of money, and you can be sure there’s more on the horizon.

    I’d encourage anyone who isn’t 100% satisfied with lemmy and its user experience right now to give it some leeway, because you’re comparing the experience to reddit apps that have had years and years of polish. With a community and donations to servers and developers, we can quickly fix the most egregious papercuts. These are growing pains, and they won’t last forever.

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    Impossible to say now, but definitely quite a lot of them are not going to be regular users. I still hope/believe the majority will stay though.

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    I have no intention of installing the official Reddit app. I’ve used Apollo for years and I’ll leave once it’s no longer an option. The way Reddit treated the Apollo developer is inexcusable.

    I managed to quit Twitter, I’m certain I can quit Reddit too.

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    Probably a good chunk, I don’t mean to be pessimistic either but that’s how it usually works on “big” movements.

    Some people follow the flow because they’re caught into the enthusiasm of the moment while not being actually convinced about what they’re doing, those people are highly likely to go back when things are back to normal (tho in my opinion reddit will never be “normal” again).

    How many they are is impossible to tell.

    The blackout is only the first wave, there will be another one IMO when 3rd party apps actually shutdown (June 30th), after that, things will settle and population on lemmy will lower, that’s not a bad thing IMO, it doesn’t do any good to have people here that don’t actually want to be here.

    As for me, since I joined I’m doing my best to be involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore and not care anymore when they’ll break old.reddit (they will like their doing with the API).

    I already feel at home here, I’m not going drastic as to nuke my reddit account or anything, tho I’ll most probably make a GDPR request and leave for good.

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    No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.

    For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is “one big universal conversation” and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.

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    I can guarantee I won’t be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.

    Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I’ll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.

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    I’m probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don’t see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.

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      Yeah Sync for Reddit is shutting down at the end of the month, so I’ll go back and save some of my favorites and then officially get off Reddit for good come July.

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    Depends upon how many people come over here and how much content gets posted. If most communities are ghost towns a lot less people will stay, if it stays interesting more people will stay. Long term depends how quickly devs can catch up in terms of features and user experience.

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    I don’t think the kind of people who are willing to try out some geeky experiment of a social network are totally dependent on Reddit culture.

    Exodus from one network to another (or to nowhere) is a thing that’s happened in the past, and if anything, people aren’t willing to go back once they finally take the effort.

    Tho I’m guessing lots of people have multiple accounts such as alts for r34, and may keep using those until Reddit finally shuts off all nsfw.

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      This is still a new frontier of site conglomeration we have no data for. If anything we have contradicting data to previous instances of this occurring because megasites have yet to fail since the rise of Facebook.

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        There have been MySpace -> FB, Digg -> Reddit, Viber -> WhatsApp, Hotmail -> Gmail, BlackBerry -> iPhone. Neither was 100% conversion, some kept their relevancy in certain markets, but those were quite some waves.

        Also, Tumblr completely kicked the bucket with its users dispersing, and while OF managed to save itself by backtracking, people were already migrating to other services.

        It may be true that the likes of FB, Twitter and Reddit are too big to fail right now, but people also keep finding alternatives.

        So, we’ll see.

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          There’s still no mainstream competitor for Reddit. I love Lemmy, but the idea that someone with little to no computer expirence is going to find it easy to join and use is laughable.

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    I’ll still always rely on Reddit for obscure answers to questions when googling, but I plan on staying with Lemmy once Apollo is taken down. I’ve been trying it out and adjusting to it during the blackout and as long as the community stays somewhat consistent, I like it here more. Reminds me of when I first joined Reddit over a decade ago.

    I usually wont quit an app over changes like this but Reddit to me is different. I like Reddit for being a place to find new communities to join and interact with what’s popular, and since the spez ama and the removal of 3rd party apps I just don’t trust it to stay that way anymore. The last thing I want to see Reddit become is another infinite scrolling content feed that an algorithm thinks you’ll like so you never want to stop scrolling. And I’m assuming since they just want to seek profit that’s what it will eventually become.

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    Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it

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      I’ve been using Jerboa on Android, it works quite well! I especially appreciate the “all” feed where you can see posts from all instances.

      A bit difficult to know if the app or the instance is bugging out when something goes wrong, but I’ve realized it’s mostly the instance (lemmy.ml). I assume it’s because all of us Reddit users have come over!

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    As a near strictly mobile only user of Reddit for nearly 10 years, they have made the decision for me by forcing everyone to use their completely horrible app. On the rare occasions at work that a search result populates with a Reddit result, I’ll probably still go there, but using an adblocking browser.

    To me it is extremely difficult to justify Reddit actually achieving a worthwhile IPO when their product is reliant 100% on user generated content and volunteer moderation. As an investor, I would be concerned about the longevity of a forum that doesn’t have adequate moderation tools, shows hostility against their own userbase, and a complete disregard for their own “AMA rules”.

    Reddit is dead. They have struck their own final blow.

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    I’m staying here, the community is way better. I’ll use both but only post and comment on Lemmy

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    The users will go where the content is.

    If reddit has 90% of the content it will get 90% of the users. If it has 90% of the users they will generate the content.

    It’s a chicken and the egg problem that will only changes when someone drops the egg.

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    I intend to return after the blackout. At least for the rest of June. It is said multiple times, that this is just the first step for many subreddits.

    I will continue using Lemmy and use Reddit only for specific communities. If there is no chance in sight on Reddits behalf, the communities can work on travelling to alternatives properly and this needs time and planing.

    As of now, this exodus is more like a panicked escape. At least one community I am from means business and I would like to support them as much as possible.