• Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    A private vpn is an oxymoron. Since you tunnel all your data to some server.

    Google and privacy is an oxymoron.

    “Google private vpn” would be a mega oxymoron.

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      1 year ago

      Not really. What if it’s your VPN? Mine allows me access to my home network, which is its primary focus, but it also obfuscates what my phone is doing online, and blocks trackers.

      (Adguard home and wireguard)

      It also lets me use my phone on 4chan… so there’s that.

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        1 year ago

        If you’re of the few people on earth to care enough and knows enough to set it’s own vpn, sure. but otherwise, NordVPN gonna still sponsor youtubers and lure people into a false sense of privacy.

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          Strps to set up my own VPN:

          1. Navigate to my router’s configuration page
          2. Select Configure VPN server
          3. Click Generate Certificate button
          4. Download certificate
          5. Enable VPN networking on my device
          6. Import downloaded certificate

          It’s that simple. If you don’t have your own firewall, you can just deploy Tailscale on all devices you want to be able to communicate with each other, which uses Wireguard under the hood.

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            As someone who manages a tailscale network at my work…I just want to point out that tailscale is a tiny bit more complicated than just downloading and installing. Not much but…

            That said the ability to automate wireguard connections is wonderful and everyone should check it out.

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      “Private” in “virtual private network” means “routed by different rules”. It’s the same “private” that’s in “private Internet Protocol addresses”.

      It was never about personal privacy.

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      It’s an oximoron in every company which make money with surveillance advertisings. Google undoubtedly has apps and services with a very high quality and often without real competition or alternative, but this has a very high cost and if the main income, apart from some paid services, is based on selling user data to advertising companies, it is logical and almost inevitable that it becomes a data moloch that uses any dirty trick to obtain these. It is an axiom: power corrupts

      Mozilla now regrets having signed with Google as a sponsor and is now trying to get out of this contract, especially since Google plans to introduce this WEI DRM, but Alphabet is not doing this the easy way and Mozilla depends a lot on this money to maintain its infrastructure. We will see what comes of this, but it is really urgent that Mozilla changes its business model, it would be very desirable and necessary.

      Moral: If you want to maintain your independence and freedom, do not accept outside investors

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    1 year ago

    The point of a VPN is to protect your privacy. Google is the last company I would trust to do that.

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    That would be like hiring professional bank robbers with a long string of hits to provide security for a bank.

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      Not trusting big Goog at all here, but some of the best hackers have been known to get hired by big corporations or the government, seeing as how they’re the best at what to look for.

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        Bruh, you have a cybersec violation on your rep sheet and you couldn’t get a job sweeping gravel off a cybersec company’s parking lot.

        “Cool cyber hacker gets hired by glowie boys” happens only in movies. The risk just isn’t worth it. In the very rare cases where the skill is worth the risk, which it never is, rest assured there is a handler team authorised to break both hands, the second the hacker goes off script.

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    Damn, people here really misunderstand the threat surface. The Google VPN is just fine for staying safe from things like rogue wifi hotspots and even Stingray devices to some extent. It’s also makes it much harder for your ISP to data mine your web activity. Obviously if you have an Android device using Google services, Google already has access to pretty much any information they might get from the VPN service. If you are de-Googled, then obviously you’d never use this.

    For the vast majority of people, privacy should be what happens outside of your curated public image. Everyone has a public image. If you try to be completely dark all the time, chances are you will slip up and just end up in an even worse position because you don’t understand when or how you’ve lost control. This is counterintelligence 101. Real first day stuff, but so many of the ‘pop-security’ influencers on the internet struggle with it, because they don’t have any practical CI training. However, having a public image doesn’t mean you cede all control to every observer. Obviously there are many choices for VPNs, but for everyday use, this VPN Google bundles with various other products is generally high quality.

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      There are quite simply better services out there, why defend a mega corp? You said it yourself they will sell every fucking byte of data, VPNs aren’t hard to figure out especially these days with ezpz UX.

      Truly fuck this service, it’s not like it’s the only one with low barrier of entry, it provides some security but by nature dissolves privacy. You also can’t shift your location at all so it’s even less useful

      Mullvad for example is easy as FUCK is super cheap (google one vpn is essentially the same pricing model for basic, $2 diff, the difference being mullvad doesn’t limit your data like google one does!!!) and performative, as well as anonymous, no account or bullshit, plays nice with their simple-as-fuck default user apps or with others like WireGuard for more config

      WHY use an inferior service that fucks you? Especially as it limits amount of data whereas mulvad doesn’t.

      It’s worse in every fucking way

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        An easy barrier of entry isn’t always the issue at hand. I think what the user is saying, hate Google or not, you are at the very least safe to some degree. A lot of people don’t realize that VPNS are just ways of manipulating where your data goes and who sees it and that VPNs can be abused as services even if they aren’t Google.

        Those same services can sell your data just the same as Google. Let’s not forget that the “mega corp” everyone loves to hate is the reason you have Android competing against iOS which is part of another mega corp. People on Lemmy should get the fuck off their high horses.

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    Anyone that actually puts their trust in this deserves whatever happens to them

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    It’s been around for a bit now. It’s free for anyone who pays them for storage. I pay them… But I’ll never use that shit. I have zero trust for Google.