How do you feel about the massive influx of users?

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    I just joined Lemmy because someone on reddit mentioned in it a comment on a thread regarding the blackout. It’s kind of cool getting into a community while it’s still relatively small. I’m excited to see how things grow.

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      I hopped over here permanently tonight. Uninstalled boost on my phone, and I made Lemmy.ml my homepage. Reddit is just too depressing right now to keep it as my default.

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    I’m a reddit refugee, Apollo was my most loved and most used app for years. I was really disappointed about this situation, but after checking out Lemmy, I’m starting to feel really excited about this. I like what I see so far and I think there is a lot of potential, and it is kind of fun to be here now while communities are still smaller. Onwards an upwards! I’m also checking out the beta for the iOS app Mlem, more work to be done but also good potential here. I’ve also been doing iOS dev work for about a decade so maybe I’ll see if I can help contribute to that project in some way.

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      I’m starting to be grateful to Reddit for giving me the nudge that I needed to explore the fediverse. I did have a look at Mastodon a while back (and I may have even joined an instance there, I’m not sure!) but was overwhelmed by not understanding it. I think being part of an exodus where there is lots of advice and support being given specifically for us is really helpful in making me feel like this is somewhere I’ll stay.

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    I honestly can’t say about the influx. Since I’m part of it.

    But man…

    This does feel like home.

    I was already loving Mastodon.

    Honestly, the real question is:

    What took us soo long…

    I was lurking on Lemmy for a long time now read only mode, not signed up, but never had the urge to actually making an account.

    I try not to have so many feeds where I’m active at once, to try and better manage the time I spend on this feeds.

    Twitter and Reddit were the ones I engaged the most

    Twitter became Mastodon and Reddit became Lemmy on that matter, so that I can focus on being active and helpful whenever possible.

    So, what took me so long…?

    Definitely something I will be asking myself for a while, since so far the experience here have something that reddit just don’t. The quality over quantity aspect.

    Finally…

    Thanks for having me here, I hope I can contribute the best I can to maintain Lemmy awesome as it is. I don’t post or reply like a madman, but I like to participate on constructive discussion every now and then.

    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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      what took us so long

      “Inertia is a property of matter” -Bill Nye the Science guy

      What I mean by that is that it takes a force to move a large mass. People behave in much the same way. It takes a push to get people to move in large numbers from one place to another. I personally have been philosophically very pro-fediverse ever since I heard about it, but I was waiting for it to reach a critical mass before really switching over.

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        That, and for Lemmy specifically, its history of being a tankie forum. Without the Reddit refugee migration, if you joined Lemmy as a single user, you would be alone among communists and eventually get bullied into leaving. Already in 2020-2021, Fediverse users knew about Lemmy, but they avoided promoting it because of its userbase. This Reddit situation provided the push to get many normal users over to Lemmy at once to drown out the communist users.

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          That’s a good point. Personally I like when there’s a diversity of political opinions that are able to have reasonable discourse. My favourite political subreddit for a while has been /r/stupidpol. It has lots of Marxists, but lots of internal variety in terms of viewpoints, and respectful debate has always been allowed there while also maintaining a lighter atmosphere.

    • croobat@lemm.ee
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      Hey man, I’ve felt mostly the same than you migrating to lemmy. A while ago I tried mastodon but it really didn’t click with me, how do you do to find people to follow and so? I was only getting recommended the same like 10 guys. I like gaming and programming if it helps.

      • Sponholz@lemmy.ml
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        For Mastodon?

        I use it the same as my Twitter, mainly googling mastodon lists of know profiles there, the I copy/paste in the search and follow them.

        On Lemmy it’s easier, just do a search for the communities you’d like to join, for example:

        Gaming at beehaw.org is amazing. Subscribe to that if you didn’t already.

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    I am also part of the influx, but I’m worried that this is going to be a short lived thing and people are going to go back to reddit.

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      people are going to go back to reddit.

      Realistically, there is no reddit to go back to. After the company goes public, Reddit as we knew it, will cease to exist.

      The shareholders will want to be make maximum profit. This means that ads are going to be everywhere. They are going to outsource hosting services to horrible companies, in order to cut down hosting costs like video hosting and image hosting. Features that existed in 3rd party apps are going to be paid features in the official app/webapp, etc.

      Reddit is gone. It’s lost. It will not be there as you knew it to go back to. It’s now a case of where to next and for the time being, lemmy and feddiverse looks the best.

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        I think the concept of “enshittification” will become more apparent to more users. Younger people, who are more technically literate, and have seen social media rise and fall I think will be more willing to adopt platforms like Lemmy. Reddit was a “place for weirdos” for a long time until the general public noticed it and began to post comments and posts to YouTube/Instagram/Twitter. Lemmy just needs time.

        One thing I always like to say to people, is “The internet was cooler when your parents didn’t understand how it worked.” I think the concept of Lemmy appeals to and will start to appeal to a lot of people soon.

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        All that may be true but that doesn’t mean there’s enough people who are motivated enough to put effort into a reddit alternative – all the reddit design updates suck for the informed user but the whole point of the updates is to keep the much, much larger casual audience hooked, and it’s yet to be seen if a reddit alternative is viable today without the casual audience. Hopefully there’s some good signs over the next few days when the blackout gets rolling

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          if we pull a critical mass of those that create and consume quality content, organic effects begin to compete with entrenchment. if not, I am ok-ish with that too. if I have to exepriece the world burning down around me, I would prefer to do so in better company than reddit.

    • bhj 🦥@lemmy.one
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      It’s very unlikely that Lemmy will ever be as big as Reddit, but this influx might have it reach a tipping point where it can start to grow users organically.

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        Indeed, for this kind of service users attract users. I’ve been checking in on Lemmy periodically for years and the content just wasn’t there (for me). But now, with plenty more users, I’m seeing a lot more value in spending more time here.

        • danisth@sh.itjust.works
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          Yep same here, I’m hoping this is the watershed moment for Lemmy and I can start spending more on here and eventually stop using reddit (or be forced to when they take away my third party app). I don’t generally create much content, but like participating in the community via comments, so it’s hard to be a force for change when nothing is getting posted and no one is commenting.

    • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
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      An idea so old is new again. The Internet and it’s early services (Usenet, email, IRC, etc.) we’re all designed from the start to be decentralized. After 20+ years of people consolidating into centrally-controlled mega platforms, I’m happy to see things coming full circle.

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      Agreed, platforms should compete by providing better UX and features, not by abusing network effects and walling off themselves to hold communities and accounts hostage. In a way the fediverse provides a common carrier that is neutral to the users and platforms connected to it, which enables competition in the same way that guaranteeing equal access to physical internet infrastructure to new ISPs is essential to preventing ISP monopolies.

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    A little bit worried. I am a recent migrator myself so this may a bit hypocritical, but I feel a lot of people will want to “redditize” here, just like how people tried with mastodon a couple months ago or (in a larger level), how people want Linux to become “another Windows”.

    These are not replicas, Lemmy doesn’t work like Reddit, neither does it try to be, and that is by design, not a flaw. Things work differently, over and under the rug, and I think users should be entitled to doing some small effort to readjusting and have an open mind.

    I’m all for UI/UX improvements, like most community projects, the front design part is more of an afterthought, and in that matter Lemmy has a lot to improve, but always keeping in mind what it is aiming to be.

    For example, I am thinking in working on some simple browser extension to rearrange the UI in a way similar to Reddit’s (nothing fancy, the upvote/downvote and collapse buttons locations, simple things). Maybe even some redirecting magic so if you open a link to another instance’s community, it instead opens it in your current one, so you can still interact without having to go to your instance and search this one.

    If anything, as a FOSS and federated content advocate, I wish this project nothing but the best so that one day we can escape the clutches of greedy companies.

      • dogmuffins@lemmy.ml
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        Well it’s a link aggregator and forum, just like reddit, but I feel like lemmy needs time for its own culture to coalesce - rather than expecting reddit culture to be imported or just exist here.

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          I hope it does coalesce into something good. I was so tired of the toxicity on Reddit from both regular users and the power-tripping mods. Yuck.

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            Yeah, I think good / bad would be a generalisation. If lemmy grows then there will be good bits and bad bits. The difference of course is that anyone can spin up their own instance, so there’s much more likelihood that some instances will be predominantly well run and enjoyable to be a part of.

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          Honestly its for the best, redditors would be rude af and incel-like as well. It was annoying to dealing with those people every time there was a talk of relationships and gender rather than thinking also approaching about those topics with empathy, respect, kindness and critically as well. I’d like to think of this as a new start where all of us can learn from the mistakes that were made in Reddit and make this a better place for everyone.

          • Ataraxia@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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            I was thinking that too. Reddit is full of gasligjting and thinly veiled racism/sexism and bigotry… hundreds of comments piling on someone based on a one sided story or a video often ending in doxxing and harrassment.

    • g0ldensp00n@lemmyrs.org
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      why not contribute directly to the project, given it’s open source nature rather than a browser extension? I’m also thinking about contributing some stuff, I think a lot of the federated part right now is really confusing and obtuse to new users especially.

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        As a new user, yes I’m a little confused on the federated part. I’m sure others are too

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        I think a lot of the federated part right now is really confusing and obtuse to new users especially.

        I have no idea what it means in context or in the broader scheme.

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          ie. you don’t have to sign up to multiple instances, and finding and joining other instances from the one you joined

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    I am excited by the prospect of new communities and not excited fo reddit groupthink

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      Yeah, the curse of success. Everyone seems to be hoping for the swift death of Reddit but I dunno. It getting shittier but still existing might be the best outcome.

      • AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz
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        It’s not going anywhere. I’m sure like 90% of people there don’t care at all what is happening. Probably more than 90, considering that about 5% used third party apps.

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    As a new person… no commit. Other than I feel obligated to not lurk after reading the plea to not lurk from other posr.

    • BrewJajaja@lemmy.ml
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      I forgot what happened exactly on July 2022 (US politics). Could they be Trumpers looking for a new home? Yes, it was repulsive to type that.

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        No trumpers ever made their way to lemmy that I know of, besides a small instance that closed a couple months back. That might be when GenZedong was quarantined and the tankies migrated to lemmygrad, not entirely sure.

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      I would guess some instance got federated and defederated again. But don’t take my word for it - just a guess.

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        I wouldn’t expect such a sharp dropp-off at the end of it again though, even if it was temporary black-out or something, I’d expect there to be more of a trail

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    It makes me hopeful for the future. Enthusiasts priming the pump for people embracing a more sustainable and less exploitative business model to organize the Internet. Instead of putting all the information on a big centralized locked down platform we share the load and costs between instances.

    I love what is happening now, it is pretty much the biggest display of resistance against big tech I’ve ever seen in my life by a long shot. I’ve seen most of the internet gradually decay to a shadow of its former self so this is a return to form and a switch to a better model in the long run.

    People are finally adopting the Fediverse and if the adoption rates keep up we might start going mainstream with all the advantages and disadvantages, but it will be alright since Lemmy is both federated and FLOSS. Lemmy is a Rust-based, AGPLv3 platform and that means it will be protected against corruption in the foreseable future, I hope.

    EDIT: Over 30% of Reddit already went dark!

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    As part of that massive influx, I’m excited!

    I’ve known about Lemmy and Tild.es for some time, but both just seemed so immature. I figured I’d give Lemmy a solid chance to show support for the blackout and because I’m likely to quit Reddit entirely if they don’t reverse course (I may quit regardless), and I’m happy to say that this doesn’t feel like a downgrade much.

    There are plenty of communities for what I’m looking for, so I’m not giving up a lot switching to Lemmy. I’m going to give it a solid chance over the next week or two and do my best to contribute, and if I’m liking it still after that point, I may be able to contribute dev resources (maybe I’ll help out with a mobile app or something).

    Anyway, I’m excited to be part of this community!

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    Tried Lemmy a couple months ago and tbh it felt dead, love this new influx just hope new communities keep popping up

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    As (another) reddit refugee, in order to compete with reddit, Lemmy needs to invest in its mobile apps, and make other servers easier to access.

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    I am one of those influx.

    I’m realllllly just hoping we don’t choke the “main” instances completely to death before the lemmy backend can have some developer hours dumped into it to support better per-instance horizontal scaling.

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      Yeah. It’s gonna be a rough first couple months. App development needs to catch up. Server support needs to catch up. Many subs need to figure out how to move over their communities. I’m tempted to start making communities and just copy-pasting the side bars and pinned threads, but Im not a mod for anything, so it feels like it’d be plagiarism.

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        Yeah, currently I too frequently end up viewing communities from outside the context of my login, it’s a pain that I hope gets remediated soon