It annoys me even though I’m still in the U.S.
Edit: For everyone saying CVs and resumes are different, that might be literally the case, but that is not how job applications are using them. I just went to this one:
The only correct format is from greatest to smallest: yyyy-mm-dd
This is, in my mind, verifiable by noting the way that lists are ordered when using this format. They are sequential. This isn’t true for either of the other formats.
As a programmer I agree. I have fucked around with trying to parse unrestricted user inputs of dates and I have found out.
Year first is the only way I can actually know which value is day vs. month.
Why don’t programmers make a programme that can read dates instead of complaining that dates aren’t in a obscure format?
They in control of their own issues.
The date is 12/11/2024. Am I talking about yesterday or a day about a month ago?
Yesterday unless you’re mental.
Is 27 outside right now. What am I talking about?
It’s great for lists but I don’t know a single person who’s gonna say “hey let’s meet up on 2024 December 11th.”
You must not know many programmers that have had to deal with American date formatting then.
I used to be a programmer myself (originally studied it for game design but now I’m a 3d animator) and it’s why there’s a specific default data structure built in to most programming languages to handle dates and internationalization of those dates.
Please someone tell oracle and microsoft.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/Date.html
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.datetime?view=net-9.0
Looks like someone already did. Been around since at least JDK 1.1
They need to be told a fuck of a lot harder then.
If you really need a specialized toolset to handle managing dates and times in a program beyond whats already there, then find a library that has the tools you’re looking for or make it yourself if it doesn’t exist. Extending the date class is always an option.
When you are writing the date, the only correct way is ISO8601 (YYYY-MM-DD). If you’re speaking to someone (verbal communication) then do whatever you want.
when making someone a cup of tea, the only correct way is ISO3103. if youre making it for yourself then do whatever you want.
Holy shit, that ISO is real. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103
It is and makes an ok, but reproducible cup of tea. As per the relevant Tom Scott video mentioned in the article.
The date thing is infuriating because the American date format just shouldn’t exist
The dates are written to match how it’s said. In the US we say our dates as month day year, and before you say “But the 4th of July” my counterpoint is that the 4th of July takes place on July 4th. And Cinco de Mayo takes place on May 5th. And May the Fourth Be With You takes place on May 4th.
I never thought of that. Thanks for the clarification.
Glad to provide some honest perspective.
I’m not from either place.
I was under the impression that a CV and a resume are different things. A CV is a general compilation of all things you’ve done, and a resume is a curated list used for applying to jobs.
I do know that they’re used interchangeably for the most part, but this is how I was explained the difference in practice.
They are the same thing.
Lots of things list them both with a slash showing then to be the same thing.
CV is more correct though.
Im british and yes that annoys me.
Need more people like David Mitchell to complain about these things.
It doesn’t “annoy” me.
I like employers to be open and honest about their various incompetencies. Saves time.
There’s a few other warning signs in that statement too - nice of them sift themselves out so quickly.
It’s the same shit as the kids saying “candy” instead of sweets in the UK, and getting british accents from Peppa Pig in the US.
The date stuff is super stupid though :
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Fuck the US date scheme
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You don’t need fucking day numbers for anything on your CV, except your DOB.
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7th Jan 2007 . You’re welcome, now it doesn’t really matter which order you put the DD/MM
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MM/DD/YYYY would annoy me wherever it’s from, because it’s wilfully perverse.
It matches the speech order in English. Today is December eleventh, 2024.
Maybe where you live, but no. Today is actually the 12th of december. Yanks like to say thats how it is but I have never, or rather rarely, heard them call their independence day July 4th. It’s always 4th of July. So, no. Its not the speech order.
Sure. But we also say “September 11th” when referring to the world trade center attacks.
4th of July is the exception in American English.
The 4th of July falls on July 4th. I can assure you as someone who has lived in the US for my entire life, we say it out loud, month, day, year and we write it to match that.
Is there a Lemmy community for /c/ShitAmericansSay
Where did you get this idea from? In British English 11th of December is more common. I’m open to the idea that American English does it differently and that’s fine but to assert that the entire English speaking world does it like that is incorrect and ignorant.
It’s american/Canadian English. We say December 11th, 2024, we write it like we say it.
Nope. It’s the 12th of December . Just like the 4th of July, or having Christmas “on the 25th”
It’s from the country that elected a pervert, so…
Do you have any idea how little that narrow it down?
