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  • infeeeee@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    It was a terrible sub for years much before the apicalypse. It was full of apple fanboys who believed every marketing bullshit.

    • drkt@scribe.disroot.org
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      Privacy wise? Probably nothing. The company engages in shitty behavior, though, and will try to upsell you even if you’re a paying costumer. I switched to Tuta because of that, and then Tuta started doing all the same bs…

    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      They gave meta information like IP to the government in Switzerland, where they are based, after the government forced them to with a court order. Not the encrypted mail, mind you, because they can’t do that, just the additional information they have on a user like email and IP.

      Because of that, a lot of redditers on r/privacy think they spy on their users for the US government. It’s a stretch, yes, but you have to remember they take turns using the one brain they collectively have.

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        Not the encrypted mail, mind you, because they can’t do that

        Just want to point out for anyone new that ProtonMail does not use E2EE for email headers. That means they CAN access your subject lines, to/from fields, and other email headers. That means they CAN be forced to hand it over to the government.

        Source: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

        Subject lines and recipient/sender email addresses are encrypted but not end-to-end encrypted.

        Personally I am disappointed in a lot of Proton’s wording about this. They frequently promise they can’t access “your data” and “your messages” when they do, in fact, store potentially sensitive data in a format they CAN access.

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          It’s email, that’s the best you can get with email, if you want to have more privacy, DON’T USE EMAIL

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          A bit more context is important here. They aren’t E2EE, but they are stored encrypted. In the case of the person whose meta information was turned over, ProtonMail wasn’t forced to hand over the information right away, they were forced to collect it the next time that person accessed and used their email. That tells us that they didn’t store the information beforehand and could not access it without preparing to intercept it the next time their service was used.

          Ultimately, though, if something like that’s a dealbreaker, it’s likely you’re doing something that would benefit from a more secure way of communicating than email.

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        If all they have on you is your optional backup email and your IP, I think they’re doing pretty well in the no data-collecting part?

        • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Well, you don’t even need to provide an email or phone number when you sign up, so if you access the site via their onion address every time, they would have no information on you at all.

  • Matshiro@szmer.info
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    Tbh I am done with reddit as a whole, back then a lot of mods were power tripping, but now most of them are. You can’t say anything, do anything, it would be better for them if no one would even visit their communities.

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      This is completely unsurprising tbh. A lot of the old mods were enthusiasts who grew a community from scratch due to their love for the subject. In the reddit API shutdown, a lot of those mods left in disgust, or were replaced by the reddit admins, or were driven off by the leftover toxic userbase calling them “entitled jannies” or whatever. A lot of the mods who took over their place were just power-hungry users who were chomping at the bit to get the chance to run a big community as their personal fiefdom because they were too toxic to grow one themselves.

      This is the inevitable culmination of these events.

      Anyway, welcome to lemmy. We become more powerful from every user who writes off reddit forever.

      PS: if you see power-trippin’ behaviour around these parts, you can always post about it in [email protected]

      • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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        I use a repost bot to keep up with the Monero reddit but most of the time I find that I’m not interested enough to actually click the link to go to the original post on reddit and so most of the time I just stay here. I deleted my account during the API issues back in June of 2023 and have not had an account since then and do not plan on going back as I really enjoy it here.

  • DaseinPickle@leminal.space
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    Nerdy communities always seem to attract some very opinionated people, which is a turn off for people just trying to do better.