Brute force protection

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Well, I sometimes input the same password 15-times in a row, and it works only on the last try. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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    4 months ago

    As a non programmer, is the joke that humans will retype their password assuming that they made a typo?

    If so, sick indeed.

    • Infynis@midwest.social
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      4 months ago

      The guy coding made it so, on your first attempt, even if you answer correctly, it will tell you your login failed due to incorrect username or password, to joke about how it feels like you always get it wrong on the first try

      • soloner@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        The logic is bugging me, though. It should be if isFirstAttempt || !isPasswordCorrect

        I understand the meme is trying to convey in spite of being correct to still return an error, but then it doesn’t account for when the password is actually incorrect.

  • Pacmanlives@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I remember in college editing OpenSSH source code to instead of return wrong password to a root shell prompt just to stop brute force attacks

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        3 months ago

        Oh all of my configs are deny root ssh login or without-password. I noticed a significant decrease in scans when returning a root prompt when I did that. This was also in the mid 2000s so who knows how things would be in this day in age for a reduction in scans

      • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Example of what My passwords are like :
        %*7EfOLkN@6AP28!8Dl#
        or potentially if allowed :
        W@c2wYnN9J3xGcyc47#ZkHJvt&Hm%q&Ad0b&Xwz#jnl4Th%6UBexD16a$YBFc@svnVrCBxXP0EpwLp6%Gk*Lom%@Qq#DjY1zsf0CzIrHHqPc8gt4edDVsg!omj*kIsIJ
        Good luck guessing my shit.

        • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
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          4 months ago

          Amateur! Strong enough passwords are like:

          ÕÚüd¸2stb½õ~jëv×Â/oyÓh²î´t¶»Ö°ÍðoNVRïé2Wc4'H,CâÞó_ökÅ,Kð¡X9ÄÀ.þTØÓoæ73d*ëÞ¢?²i"`צeÉçß,ÎÅëüS.¹([)ãÒÑêf9÷¿¢=@Á×ÅQÎÂßu¸Å(iRZµîw&ãR
          
          • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Try this on for size :

            `'�d+�t<�5mF�qrqcmv/�F��~��Yv�Om�/lK�RɏY%ɺP1�h�Ryl-G/��m�ʰ�+^)��<>�itdkaz�q2HA*1�PK�D@{9�vN.<}�~ٕ�_�26IA/cHIn����1ĈҾܒl�I9$�vA��W¸ȶW"z�}θ�x�,>~�Ux�SJZ\�5ÀI��F}nLZT�;KӚq�&NQo32y7���0"^LÎs>��j!��V��k��2O<2W�ƽYcA#8�J�Of�pهZb�%1g�w�!k*h(ʶ73�@�CC�hUsԺe!_��dR�ٞpvG|.=4{v"&.��m=_�͚DZZף�aaZ��Cq�!sG1T3�=2lb,����^�镰n)Ld]��Ϯ
            

            What’s my power level now?

            • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
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              4 months ago

              You lever is very low! There are not displayable characters so you cannot easly verity the password by eye or copy from paper.

              • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                Why would I have to verify by eye? That’s what a password manager is for. And writing your passwords on paper? ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ

            • darelik@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              #ENHANCE

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      • Rickety Thudds@lemmy.ca
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        Rainbow tables and presumably newer stuff I haven’t heard of make this sort of thing weaker than it used to be

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          How does a rainbow table help here? They’re more for decoding unsalted encrypted database tables, rather than for actually trying to login.

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          Salting makes rainbow tables pretty much useless, and salting has been a standard practise for a few decades now.

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          The rainbow table would have to include every four word combination. At around half a million words in the English dictionary, that’s not a small number.

          As another XKCD comic illustrates, it’s cheaper to use a wrench.

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        I suspect if the cracking code was constructed such that it had more weight on trying combinations of common words then this would be much easier to crack

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          I would naively think that as well - you would expand your alphabet of “symbols” to include both single letters and numbers and punctuation but also common words as well. It is still a lot of combinations to have to try though, even if less than each letter by itself.

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    4 months ago

    If they had the password right the first try, that isn’t a brute force attack, thats a credential leak.

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      It should be that it rejects the password the first time it’s entered correctly but accepts it on every subsequent try. That actually would provide some protection against like dictionary attacks and raw brute force attacks.