• Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    10 months ago

    Maybe the managers should pull themselves up by the bootstraps and run the plant on their own.

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    10 months ago

    In Ford’s defense - everyone in the plant that actually works for a living and doesn’t just play fantasy football all day - is on strike so it’s not surprising their management is paralyzed by indecision for weeks on end.

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      10 months ago

      Even if that wasn’t complete nonsense, it would be a good thing. The world needs to stop making and driving ICE vehicles. High prices are a great deterrent.

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        10 months ago

        this take kinda ignores the large number of people and places that do not have that option. it’s not up to consumers to stop driving. infrastructure has to come first in more than just major cities.

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          If people aren’t forced, those locations would never get public transport.

          And the people living on the country side aren’t exactly too poor to buy a more expensive car.

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          10 months ago

          I was about to rant about how important it is for things to change and people being inconvenienced doesn’t matter. But let’s be real. It’s already too late.

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    10 months ago

    While I sympathize with the workers wanting more money, I’m not looking forward to new vehicles being more unattainable than they already are.

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      10 months ago

      Hey, buddy. I got some news for you.

      Businesses charge what people are willing to pay. Full stop. Not what products cost to produce.

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          10 months ago

          Right. They’re selling as high above the production cost as people are willing to pay.

          It’s called ‘maximizing profit.’

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      I don’t understand why you get downvoted. How can people not know that a rise in production cost gets passed through to the customer.

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        10 months ago

        When unions are involved you aren’t allowed to point out things like that.

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      10 months ago

      Majority of inflation is largely greedflation, i.e. corporate profit driven not in anyway compensational towards wage costs. Hell even the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics agrees.

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        I expect so, but most corporations aren’t going to roll back and make less money than they do now. I read that the UAW workers want to make $100,000 a year after 4 years on the job. I don’t see how that can make vehicles any more affordable.

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          They aren’t built to be affordable, consumption now is on debt trapping and managing infinite payments (car, house, hell you can take a loan out for a pizza). Shits fucked and it’s fucked whether or not a worker is making an actual wage but I know I’d rather see someone not fully strugglging while doing manual labor for already overpriced cars. i.e. stop criticizing workers for wanting something better with such lib takes that “oh no this will harm my consumptuion that’s already harmed under capital”.

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          Corporations will do whatever they need to maximize profit.

          If people had higher standards, businesses would have to meet those standards in order to stay in business.

          I don’t see how that can make vehicles any more affordable.

          That’s because you’re not paying attention to the people who are making too much profit. They’re having a fat payday because vehicles are expensive and employees are paid peanuts. There’s plenty of room for vehicles to go down in price and employees to get paid more if the people making profit made less profit.

          Keep in mind, they will still be making more money than you can ever hope to achieve.

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            10 months ago

            Imagine thinking the automotive industry actively looks for areas to cut the fat and somehow simultaneously you manage to completely ignore the fact dealerships still exist

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              What are you talking about?

              Try to avoid playing leap-frog with yourself and just say your stance in a direct manner.

              Starting off with ‘imagine’ just tells me you’re smug, but not correct.

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      I think the companies already charge whatever they can get away with. They are always going to charge the maximum price they can without losing more money in lost sales.

      The workers getting a pay rise would increase the minimum cost they could charge but they already charge the maximum which is what the market will bear. To not do the latter would mean these companies are willingly leaving money on the table

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        The workers getting a pay rise would increase the minimum cost they could charge but they already charge the maximum which is what the market will bear.

        No it wouldn’t. They would simply make very slightly less profit. Christ. Thatcher really did a number on y’all

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          10 months ago

          That’s what I said

          The minimum cost they could charge is the amount it cost them to make it which would go up but they charge the maximum which is the price that generates the most profit without sacrificing sales therefore a pay rise would mean the company would just have to eat the cost and make less profit

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      10 months ago

      This particular plant is making premium SUVs and pickups, by the sound of it, so already luxury vehicles. It’s not like they’re making economy cars.